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FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« on: February 12, 2011, 05:33:04 PM »
Hi fellow FF6 Lovers, I've finally registered (I'm usually at Mnrogar's Den) to let anyone interested know that I've finished my rebalance/edit of FF6, available at:

http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/707/

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Readme Excerpt:
The game is no longer basically over when you reach the WoR. While no story events have changed, you will need to use the varying areas of difficulty in the World of Ruin to level up and get good enough items until you can finally kill the last boss.

New XP curve, HP curve, MP curve.

Everything has been changed to fit new damage curves, but the essence of many things are the same.

Heroes have new character stats, items stats, and spell stats such that damage, armor, and HP/MP increase in new ways. It will be very hard to reach max damage or HP or MP or armor, etc.

Every monster tweaked or changed. A vast majority of the monster AI has changed. Monsters are tough now, and should demand attention for victory. No more just holding down a button or casting your best spell. If a monster is human, it might have a little gold or items, but if not, the best you?ll get is dried meat.

The only items that have not changed are those that cure attributes. Even then, the prices have changed.

Everything is expensive, and money is hard to get.

Every character has been changed in terms of stats. Relm has X-magic instead of Sketch, and is very feeble. Setzer has Jump instead of Slot, has good defense, can use all armor types, and can use all weapons better than everyone except Gogo (and DragoonBoots are no longer obtained early in the game, as jump is now very powerful). All characters are competitive in terms of usability.

Nothing a player does will instantly kill a monster (except 1 Lore), unless it is petrify.

Spells Removed: Demi, Quartr, Float, Slow, Haste, Flare

Spells Added: Exalt, Image, Flood, Plague, Exsicc

All Tools have been tweaked, 2 were removed because they did nothing for the game and couldn?t be edited (Chainsaw and AirAnchor). Tools are almost completely magic based.

3 Blitzes were changed and 2 are tweaked. BumRush is no longer super powerful because you learn it so early in the WoR. Sabin?s later moves are magic based, and he has 2 healing skills.

2 SwdTechs have changed, 3 were tweaked. Half of Swdtech is magic, half is physical damage, and it is all offensive.

Much of the lores have been tweaked or changed. Almost every lore is unreflectable/unrunicable. Many have new graphics. There is still one lore spot being unused for now.

All of the dance spells have been altered, many of them changed completely, and a good portion of them have new graphics. All dance moves are unreflectable/unrunicable. Mog is very useful midgame, and has good enough stats to make him competitive endgame, but his Dances will not be useful then. There was no avoiding this because Mog?s dances are learned so early.

All of the rages have changed. You will be able to find a superior attack/spell in rages at each level of the game. However, at present there is a chunk of the rages mimic their monsters to the point of being a bit boring (no Quasar/Goner rages). For the most part, rages don?t have skills that come from Dance or Lore.

The colloseum has also changed. Every item wins another item (No Chupon-Elixirs anymore). By betting an item, you will usually be able to win a better item. The top tier items will only be able to be won by betting another top tier item, but almost every item should be winnable.

These relics have been removed: Exp. Egg, sprint shoes, true knight, goggles, runningshoes, fake mustache, gale hairpin, mithril glove, moogle charm, charm bangle, so don?t go looking for them! Most relics have changed, of course.

Also, the background music does not change when entering a fight, unless it is a boss.

If you need more info than you could possibly want for this version, I have the excel sheet used to create this game, as well as a supplementary documents for easier reading attached.

Note: There is a specific way the WoR is meant to be played, see the Readme for info.

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2011, 06:39:26 PM »
This looks intriguing, but there is one problem that turns me away from it - the difficulty. My ideal FF6 hack would change everything as you did, but kep the difficulty roughly the same as the original UNTIL the WoR, where it would get much harder than the original (only after you've acquired the Falcon.) This is the type of hack that I'm working on - I know most hackers like to make hacks that are much harder than any game developer would ever dream of making their game, and I just don't find that fun. That's not to say the original game was ideal, I would consider it too easy, but that's mostly due to abusable glitches and a low experience curve only, and as a result, endgame was a complete pushover. However, if I'm just trying to make it through the WoB and I have to keep resetting because I keep dying over and over, the game is too hard. That shouldn't happen until endgame.

In short, a hacked game shouldn't be any harder than a LLG in the WoB.

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2011, 06:54:10 PM »
Well feel free to throw anything you like from my hack into yours;  I want them all to be as good as possible.  Where were you dying in the WoB?  I've never tried a LLG, but I can't imagine this is harder.

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2011, 08:12:54 PM »
Well feel free to throw anything you like from my hack into yours;  I want them all to be as good as possible.  Where were you dying in the WoB?  I've never tried a LLG, but I can't imagine this is harder.

I haven't tried it yet, that was just a generalization, really. Most of your ideas were actually ideas I had for my hack long before you released this - for example, making most random encounters not have battle music, I've had that idea for years, but never implemented it into a full hack. I just never finish projects I start, usually do to minor setbacks that add up. >.<

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2011, 08:21:44 PM »
Sorry I misread your post (I missed an "if").  Hey, you know how to turn off the battle music, right?  If so, don't read this:  It takes 30 minutes, so LordJ must have been very sympathetic to this idea.   All you have to do is uncheck the "Play Music" box in the formations editor of FF3usME, but you have to do it for each formation you want, so it's just tedious.  God bless that LordJ.

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 08:29:04 PM »
Sorry I misread your post (I missed an "if").  Hey, you know how to turn off the battle music, right?  If so, don't read this:  It takes 30 minutes, so LordJ must have been very sympathetic to this idea.   All you have to do is uncheck the "Play Music" box in the formations editor of FF3usME, but you have to do it for each formation you want, so it's just tedious.  God bless that LordJ.

Yeah, I've done it before. Most of the issues I had were with things involving ASM hacking.

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2011, 11:24:44 AM »
Yay!

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2011, 05:27:58 AM »
I've released a new version with some big updates. The big thing is that patches for all types of ROMs are available. Previous updates have also fixed things which may have turned off players before, such as a problem with Ultros and Ghost Train doing more damage  than they did when I playtested it.

Highlights of the new version:

Even better AI scripts for some WoR monsters/bosses
Mog's dances changed so that new dances are learned later on and are very powerful
Terra's morph can last forever, does 2x damage for all attacks, but makes her take 2x damage all the time also


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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2011, 03:34:42 PM »
A near final version has just been uploaded

Cheers to the resistance & down with Empire

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It also has a new Panzy mode for easier play
« Last Edit: October 16, 2011, 04:36:45 PM by gogo13 »

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2011, 08:32:32 PM »
Thank you, though IRL it does have a slight graphical flaw to it

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2011, 07:30:26 AM »
A near final version has just been uploaded

Cheers to the resistance & down with Empire

 :edit:
It also has a new Panzy mode for easier play

Nice! Ill have to give this one a run!

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2011, 07:06:54 PM »
If it's still too hard, let a guy know and I can take the 3 hours to revamp it

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2011, 08:09:00 AM »
is there any way for me to restore the battle music to its original state?

This is the only change you made that i didn't like, no offense of course

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Re: FF6: Is the Best Game Ever released!!
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2011, 07:20:54 PM »
That's a great compliment, actually (though I can't imagine it will be the only thing you disagree with eventually). If you get the FF3usME editor (though it also requires .dlls which must be gotten from LordJ as well), then you just go to the formations tab and there is a checkbox that toggles "Play Music" for each battle formation. There are lots of formations, so it will be a good 30 minutes of checkboxing. Unless of course you uppercut it, which will OHKO the program and you'll be the checkboxing champion, once again defending the universe from thinking it can just checkbox us around like a Scottish wife in olde York.