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Gaming Discussion / Re: FF3/6 - SrBehemoth
« on: August 22, 2008, 12:12:55 AM »
NoYes and no. The live SrBehemoth is never supposed to appear on the Veldt (FF6A broke that), though I'm a little curious how they approached the item drop issue.

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Gaming Discussion / Re: FF3/6 - Auction House
« on: August 21, 2008, 03:29:56 PM »
I believe the two espers and the Hero Ring are the only unique items in the auction house. Yeah, sucks.

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General Discussion / Re: Can-can
« on: August 21, 2008, 02:02:41 AM »
* Lenophis remains confused...
:sad:

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Perhaps Zyth should be alerted to this rather huge corruption issue then?

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I spent four hours or more in that editor and it was all worthless.   :lame:
How much testing did you actually do when you were making these changes?

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General Discussion / Re: Can-can
« on: August 20, 2008, 01:59:26 AM »
* Lenophis is confused

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Gaming Discussion / Re: FF3/6 - Understanding Gogo
« on: August 19, 2008, 04:50:51 PM »
Are you trying to figure out the menu itself?
I have a very good chunk of the menu figured out.

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(I've already posted a link to the yellow streak fix, unless that's not what you're looking for...)
No, I was referring to this:


"Graphical glitches" is putting it lightly. Although, it's his patch, and it's not up to me to fix it and clean up his mess for him...

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Gaming Discussion / Re: FF3/6 - Understanding Gogo
« on: August 19, 2008, 04:02:19 PM »
Anyways..

http://www.geigercount.net/crypt/index.html
Suddenly JCE's screenshot of the skills menu bleeding into the status menu is making sense. Let's see what this is breaking...

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Gaming Discussion / Re: FF3/6 - Understanding Gogo
« on: August 19, 2008, 03:15:04 PM »
I started to amend my state later in the original post (mind drifting often is not a good sign for me).
I think both of us were bitten by that. :isuck:

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While I was writing that, I was trying to figure out which commands never show up.. (thanks to the guy who made the "Select Any Command" hack)

This includes..
Morph
Revert
Leap
Health
Shock
Row
Def.
Mimic
Magitek
:eek: And where is this patch?

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My reply was I thought you didn't understand how Gogo's command list was derived from. My fault there. AFAIK, there's a fix for the Yellow Streak bug, but I totally forgot who was responsible for that....
I had a pretty good idea of what was behind it, but I'm still not 100% certain of what's going on. My "Throw is supposed to be the command with the yellow streak" was added because the commands were out of order.

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Rereading your post.. I have no idea where the code that controls his command list comes from.
* Lenophis looks in JCE's general direction again...

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Gaming Discussion / Re: FF3/6 - Understanding Gogo
« on: August 19, 2008, 02:32:51 PM »
This is true, but I think it has to do moreso with how his list is initiated. Once a character is introduced, their command set is probably added to the list.
The order is Terra, Locke, Edgar, Sabin, (then it's out of order because of the scenarios, since it's between Cyan, Gau, and Celes), Setzer, Shadow (he is forced on you when you leave for Thamasa), Strago, then Relm. Mog, Gogo, and Umaro are never forced on you.

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It is added in the order that the characters are listed in. I suggest you take a look at Gogo's full command list.
I have, several times.

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Take a look at how it matches up with the characters you get in the order is it stored internally.
Based on this statement, there should be some variance in that menu based on when you recruited everybody. However, going back to this:

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It is added in the order that the characters are listed in. I suggest you take a look at Gogo's full command list.
The order is always Fight/Jump, Item, Magic/X-Magic, Steal/Capture, SwdTech, Throw, Tools, Blitz, Runic, Lore, Sketch/Control, Slot/Gil Toss, Dance, and Rage.

And for reference, character ID's are as follows:
Terra - 0
Locke - 1
Cyan - 2
Shadow - 3
Edgar - 4
Sabin - 5
Celes - 6
Strago - 7
Relm - 8
Setzer - 9
Mog - 10
Gau - 11
Gogo - 12
Umaro - 13

Aside from the commands everybody gets (Magic and Item), the list follows that order. However, some commands are excluded (Morph, Revert, and Leap).

Now, going back to my thought in my previous post...

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An old FF3USHT completed game:
This list is severely out of order to what it should be.

That's what drew this:

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Ok, I do know that there is something funky going on. Throw is supposed to be the command with Gogo's screwed up portrait. There must be data for this, so where is this data?

To which you made a snarky reply:

Do I have to spell it out?
I fully understood what you said previously.

I'll state my question again. There has to be some data controlling it, since I haven't found any code yet excluding commands or determining the order for it. Where is it?

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Gaming Discussion / Re: FF3/6 - Understanding Gogo
« on: August 19, 2008, 01:41:40 PM »
Ok, I do know that there is something funky going on. Throw is supposed to be the command with Gogo's screwed up portrait. There must be data for this, so where is this data?
* Lenophis looks in JCE's general direction

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Gaming Discussion / Re: FF3/6 - Understanding Gogo
« on: August 19, 2008, 01:02:12 PM »
What does recruiting have anything to do with Gogo's command list? It has absolutely zero impact. I would've thought you knew this.
I read somewhere that the characters you get means Gogo gets their commands added to his list. I'll do some inspecting, and see what turns up.

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Gaming Discussion / FF3/6 - Understanding Gogo
« on: August 19, 2008, 12:55:03 PM »
Gogo - I cannot live w/o the Steal command
Really? Locke isn't recruited, so steal shouldn't be available to you. I get Locke very early because he's one of my best overall fighters, and any level re-averaging sucks. One party of Terra, Sabin, Celes, and Edgar and another party of Mog = massively beaten Phoenix Cave. :happy:

I also get Mog pretty quickly because the Moogle's Charm is really helpful in areas annoying to clean out (Kefka's Tower, Cultists' Tower, etc).

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Gaming Discussion / Re: Dumb FF3/6 Question
« on: August 19, 2008, 12:31:51 PM »
From what I've seen, yes. You must rescue her at the Cave of the Veldt, then step on some tiles x amount of times in Thamasa before she goes to Jidoor.

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Gaming Discussion / Re: Fun FF3/6 Question
« on: August 19, 2008, 12:30:47 PM »
My order always starts out like this:

Celes - :wink:
Sabin - :blits:
(fight Phunbaba 1 & 2, get Fenrir)
Edgar - :finger:
Setzer - :bah:
Terra - :sleep:
Gau - :happy:
Mog - :zemogus:
Locke - :lungs:

The rest becomes open ended.