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Title: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on March 16, 2017, 12:13:21 PM
Day 3 and counting.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Lenophis on March 16, 2017, 05:10:13 PM
Yeah, I know. This happened last year, too, though I forget why the downtime happened. A few of us suspect it has to do with the blizzard that recently hit the northeast, at least to a certain degree. Other sites have been affected.

On a side note, there is a rogue twitter account, which isn't affiliated with RHDN in the slightest, stating that Nightcrawler shut the site down. Do not believe this. RHDN does not have any twitter account, official or unofficial.

Hopefully the downtime is resolved shortly.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Rodimus Primal on March 16, 2017, 05:12:00 PM
Crazy. Any idea what happened? I figured it was where the hosts are but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Lenophis on March 16, 2017, 05:15:36 PM
At the moment, nobody is really sure. Much of the mid-east (in the states) had been without power for about a week, which could be a factor. I don't recall where RHDN host resides, but any kind of natural disaster is going to have an impact.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on March 16, 2017, 06:05:04 PM
Ahh okay, thanks for the heads up on that Lenophis. I was trying to scour for info on why it was down earlier today, and the only thing I could fine was some bs article about Nintendo shutting them down or something.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Lenophis on March 16, 2017, 06:56:04 PM
If the site was shut down, as is claimed, there would be some kind of info being displayed saying as such. It not loading just means the site is down. Human error? Technical error? At the moment, nobody is sure.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Kea on March 16, 2017, 07:54:40 PM
The host being down seems the likeliest problem, the past few days have seen some hellacious snowstorms up and down the east coast.

It's a bother, but in the meantime I can just compile my FF1 notes locally and wait for Data Crystal to come back up.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Lenophis on March 16, 2017, 08:17:33 PM
From the man himself.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7FRtXcU0AAXbpB.jpg)
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Rodimus Primal on March 16, 2017, 09:25:45 PM
The host being down seems the likeliest problem, the past few days have seen some hellacious snowstorms up and down the east coast.

It's a bother, but in the meantime I can just compile my FF1 notes locally and wait for Data Crystal to come back up.

I don't doubt it. Where I live on the East Coast, they first said we were going to get 8-12" of snow while a little north of us was going to get 18-24". Sure enough, north of us did but all we got was rain.

From the man himself.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7FRtXcU0AAXbpB.jpg)

That's crazy.

Also, right now if you go the page you get this:
"The patient is alive, however RHDN will remain in the ICU for awhile and cannot accept any visitors."
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: thepatirckinator on March 17, 2017, 09:26:29 AM
It seems that Romhacking.net is not available at this time. Nightcrawler is redoing the site from the ground up so it'll be back.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Lenophis on March 17, 2017, 12:58:03 PM
The shutting down part was not his decision. The whole thing crashed and needs to rebuilt from scratch. Patience is all we can have right now
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on March 17, 2017, 04:19:54 PM
Something I found funny (from an aritcle on the site gamingreinvented):

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The fake ?legal threats? posts on the other hand are (apparently) by trolls from another popular ROM hacking website. One that?s on bad terms with the ROM Hacking.net community and wants to make the situation look as hopeless as possible. It?s like the whole Jason Allen thing we had going on a while back. Except you know, with the affected fan game host being a fake rather than the ?lawyer?.

 :laugh:


Apparently, they're assuming BHDN's the ones spreading the legal threats rumors because of the drama/ban/hack purge fiasco a few months back, which as someone who goes on their forum on a regular basis I can say with 100% certainty that that is complete BS. They've been in the dark about what's been going on the past couple days like the rest of us have been.

Lol basically some people are trying to turn this whole server-down issue into the Trump/Russia conspiracy of the romhacking world. It's kind of funny, but mildly retarded.


Anyhoo, I'm just glad Slick and BHDN are the main forums I come to. Even though I haven't done much in terms of FF4 hacking lately, anytime Slick has a period of downtime, it's like my favorite uncle's in the hospital; and both forums just have a much more relaxed, helpful, friendlier atmosphere in my personal experiences compared to RHDN in the past half a year or so.

 :cycle:
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Spooniest on March 17, 2017, 06:30:16 PM
 :hmm:

What a pisser.

...Server rebuild eh? Perhaps the archive is getting too large to maintain as currently stands, and needed a rebuilt server thingy? ...Crashed the site, eh? :) Nightcrawler must feel like he's on that episode of I Love Lucy where she and Ethel go to work at a pastry factory

lol

Hope it's back up soon, Ripping Hacks Directly Nailed 4 lyfe
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: thepatirckinator on March 17, 2017, 11:13:24 PM
At least we have this site until Romhacking.net is back. Sorry that Romhacking.net had to crash.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Madsiur on March 18, 2017, 10:54:02 AM
I think we should chip in to offer Nightcrawler cable internet. Here the CRTC (Canadian FCC) stated and voted last month that high speed internet availability is a right, considered on the same level as an example as access to public services or electricity.

Edit: Re-reading, not sure if he means he has a DSL connection or upload with hoster is low speed...  :hmm:
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: thepatirckinator on March 18, 2017, 11:21:35 AM
We should offer cable internet to him. That way, he'll bring back Romhacking.net as soon as possible. Romhacking.net will also have a new design. If you're asking that Nightcrawler has a DSL connection or upload with hoster at low speed, you're probably right.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on March 18, 2017, 01:32:58 PM
Yeowch. My best friend has DSL (I believe, anyway) and at times his speeds drop so low that I start feeling thankful that I'm using AOL in 2017. :wtf:
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Kea on March 18, 2017, 07:06:35 PM
RHDN forums are back up! The rest of the site is still out of sorts to varying degrees, but that shouldn't last long.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Lenophis on March 18, 2017, 08:28:02 PM
Nightcrawler can't have cable internet where he lives, much in the same way I can't. Cable providers don't consider it a worthwhile investment, and the government isn't stepping in to say "yeah, you need to do that." There is nothing he can do about it.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Madsiur on March 18, 2017, 09:13:44 PM
Nightcrawler can't have cable internet where he lives, much in the same way I can't. Cable providers don't consider it a worthwhile investment, and the government isn't stepping in to say "yeah, you need to do that." There is nothing he can do about it.

Country area here (90% of territory) have the same problem, hence the decision to push providers to invest in infrastructures in remote areas.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: thepatirckinator on March 19, 2017, 09:53:28 PM
It's up again! This could be goodbye to this topic.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: thepatirckinator on July 05, 2017, 08:03:54 PM
I guess this is goodbye to topic.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Chronosplit on July 29, 2017, 03:44:44 PM
RHDN forums were down for a little bit to remove Site Discussion, themes, and General Discussion for all but Patreon subscribers.  The forum sections were barred for 2-3 days.

I'm honestly not really sure what course of action I should take here.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on July 31, 2017, 02:41:27 PM
I wonder how many people will actually pay for, essentially, the three least useful parts of that entire forum?

Minus Site Discussion - which is monstrously ass backwards that THAT is blocked off.

LMFAO wait does that mean the mods now have to pay just to troll moderate those two blocked off forums? From the responses on Twitter the mods were left in the dark about all of this when this first went down.

Though not gonna lie, the fact you actually now have to PAY to use a section of that site's forum where the threads are regularly locked, silently poofed, or thought patrolled on a regular basis - is so ironic I might just die from laughing.   :happy:


For a good while I used to frequent RHDN, BHDN, and Slick pretty evenly. In fact, now that my internet is not complete shit atm I might frequent BHDN and here again.

After awhile, RHDN started reminding me of a liberal arts college - I watched them pretend a minor back-n-forth pretend three to five people about BHDN was a million times more extreme than it really was, banned the majority of people that frequent that site, removed all of their hacks, lied about the reason why, and then threatened to ban anyone who bothered to bring it up.

I was threatened with a ban like two separate times after that debacle - one of those times I wasn't even the person they were meant to go after. And the other time they "assumed" I was bringing it up when I publicly asked if a couple replies in the general discussion forum had poofed.


RHDN's a good database for hacks, and the Project/Hacking Discussion forums are nice now and then, but the atmosphere's turned to shit over the past 2 years I've been going over there.  They're basically turning into what they pretend BHDN is when it comes to the mood and their attitudes.

Ever see the post I made about being banned over ice cream? I wasn't kidding - I'd probably get IP banned for posting a picture of a tub of Briar's at this point, as obnoxiously uptight as they get about it.


Moral of the story: If you want to have a chill discussion about random things, stick to Slick or BHDN where you don't have to go over a paywall just to see half of your discussions/threads silently removed like it's Soviet Russia.  :banonsmash:


 :edit:

Apparently someone wrote a little article/blog post about all this.


http://tilde.town/~xkeeper/#rhdn (http://tilde.town/~xkeeper/#rhdn)
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on August 01, 2017, 07:03:11 PM
Welp, 4chan made a copypasta out this whole fiasco.


Nightcrawler's basically become a meme, more or less, and it's funny as hell.

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What is your obsession with pedos? Most of my site is LGBTQ++++ and furries, so yes - I Nightcrawler am a brony.


https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/135743192/ (https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/135743192/)
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Chronosplit on August 01, 2017, 10:59:44 PM
Holy hell, I never thought this whole thing would reach /pol/.  Makes me wonder just how big this fiasco exploded.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Lenophis on August 02, 2017, 11:25:25 AM
I would like to point out, Bahamut, that I don't want to see anything from BHDN spill on over to here. Cause then you'd draw my ire, and I don't think we want that to happen.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on August 02, 2017, 05:25:17 PM
I would like to point out, Bahamut, that I don't want to see anything from BHDN spill on over to here. Cause then you'd draw my ire, and I don't think we want that to happen.

No worries. I go there and here for the laid back and friendly atmospheres, not to stir pots. Everything's got it's place and it'll stay that way.

Thank for you for the kind heads up though. And I don't mean that as sarcasm, either - it's genuinely a relief to  get a heads up, rather than some of the out-of-nowhere, Godfather-sounding PM's I've gotten on RHDN about little to nothing.


Holy hell, I never thought this whole thing would reach /pol/.  Makes me wonder just how big this fiasco exploded.

Yeah, I noticed the odd goings on there kind of exploded in escalation after Mr.Richard got reamed for submitting the "CNN Sucks" hack.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure 4chan members made that hack to begin with. I mean, that could explain why a copypasta of a random owner of a random rom hacking now exists.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Chronosplit on August 02, 2017, 10:32:28 PM
Actually, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure 4chan members made that hack to begin with. I mean, that could explain why a copypasta of a random owner of a random rom hacking now exists.
IIRC in the original database page "4Chan" was listed as the author.  Doing it for shits and giggles has happened before.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Rodimus Primal on August 05, 2017, 10:44:01 AM
Man this stinks. It's literally shutting out way too many features. The main page doesn't even fully load. Locking out the forums is a bad move IMO. I wouldn't be suprised if this site or another similar place took over as the ROM hacking central site.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on August 05, 2017, 12:52:21 PM
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The main page doesn't even fully load.

I noticed that the other day. Also, downloads keep randomly cutting off on me when I'm over there. Tried for an hour to get a text editor for Ocarina of Time (1.5mb), and basically was refreshing the page and waiting for 8761235 pictures of SMB1 hacks to load the whole time.


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I wouldn't be suprised if this site or another similar place took over as the ROM hacking central site.

Actually that would be pretty great, or if more than just 3 or 4 so sites had similar databases as RHDN has.


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Locking out the forums is a bad move IMO

I mean it'd be one thing if the site was just in dire straits and desperately needed money, but even that patreon announcement post comes across as: "It's YOUR fault we decided to drastically update our site because 30 people wanted Facebook and Twitter buttons, so now YOU need to pay a monthly fee for stuff that's already been around for 15-odd years so we can pay a 3rd party to continue to do the exact same thing we've been doing - fixing something that wasn't broken.


Yay, tweets!  :happy: :laugh: :lame:"
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Chronosplit on August 05, 2017, 01:48:05 PM
Ah, so the site randomly not working wasn't my connection in flux.  It was working just fine until some days ago, now it's hard to even get to updated hacks for me (luckily MaternalBound has another place for downloading, not so much for that neat looking MM7 restoration).  Downloads do randomly cut out in the same fashion, kind of another reason why I backed up all my stuff to mega.

The bad thing is that I can't even find out if there's a reason behind these recent outages, nor can anyone else just visiting.  It's silent on the Twitter too.  You would think stuff about this would be a crucial thing to update on, other sites do it just to be nice at least. :lame:
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Spindaboy on August 05, 2017, 02:51:55 PM
I've purposefully been avoiding this topic because I have strong feelings towards it, but the short version is I really hope someone can scrape as many of the files as possible off RHDN and start a new lead ROM hacking website (preferably with a less cancerous community). I refuse to support the scummy and disingenuous way Nightcrawler has decided to run the site.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Bahamut ZERO on August 06, 2017, 12:38:38 PM
Eh, it wouldn't be so bad if they actually let people discuss it without an entire thread poofing.

OR if you could so much as bring it up over there without some RHDN zealot harping out "After all RHDN has done for the community, it can't ASK for money? HERR DERR DERR" *thread gets deleted and you get a picture of a horse's head attached to a threat PM'ed to you by a mod*

That site's community's given that site more than that site could ever give back to them - an existence.

And all this because of a forum update maybe 3 dozen people actually wanted.  :lame:
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Chronosplit on August 06, 2017, 03:04:00 PM
Looks like the site's not malfunctioning anymore right now, at least.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Spooniest on August 11, 2017, 03:21:04 PM
I haven't posted there since reading the news article on the front page.

I read through it, processed it, took down my avatar and sig, popped into chat to type a single line:

"That's as far as I go. Check please."

And I'm done. RHDN has been taking a crap on its community members all these years, but I've been mostly alright with how they ran things if it meant something.

This stinks of a shameless cash grab and it makes me infuriated to have supported RHDN as a website.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Spindaboy on August 21, 2017, 09:11:51 PM
This is the story of why I left RHDN. Originally I had made a thread for my the hack I was working on at the time, however I apparently didn't have enough "evidence" to warrant my hack getting its own thread in the "Personal Projects" section. The thread is then wrongly moved to "ROM Hacking Discussion" which is clearly not where it belongs. I pay a visit to the RHDN Discord and after basically asking wtf is going on I'm told that whichever staff member moved my thread "must have had a good reason for doing so". When I refute that claim and show that I clearly followed the guidelines (I even included screenshots) I am immediately (without warning) banned form the Discord and on top of that the thread I previously mentioned is completely removed from the site. I tweet at the RHDN Twitter what happened and kindly ask that they would get their staff under control. The moderator Azkadellia responds saying there is no possible way a staff member could have abused their power as it simply wouldn't happen. Infuriated at this point I leave the site all together.

That was about 5 months ago. So now I come back to the site at roughly the same time the Patreon catastrophe is occurring and start a thread for my latest hack (FFIV Postlude). My account at this point is also under limited access meaning all my posts must be approved by a Moderator first. So it's approved, however I don't have the ability to edit it due to the limited access. So what I do is I create another forum account under my current username (Spindaboy) and make a post on the thread basically saying I wouldn't be updating the project on RHDN anymore that also included a link to the thread for the hack on this site. I check back today and the entire thread is gone. Deleted. It doesn't exist anymore. No message from the moderators or any other notification of any kind. The Patreon fiasco alone was a good enough reason to leave, but this just solidifies my decision. So all I have to say now is the following: Fuck you romhacking.net. Fuck your ungratefulness to the community, fuck your cancerous members, fuck your unjust staff, and fuck your money whoring website.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: Chronosplit on September 01, 2017, 10:04:39 AM
^I can confirm at least that a Mod had a power trip, Personal Projects has very loose guidelines about how you post things in reality.

I know this because my FFT Name Fix post had next to nothing actually in it, had someone complaining about my update frequency, and me multiposting.  Mine was the worst thread in PP and it never had any mod interaction.
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: JCE3000GT on October 03, 2017, 05:24:54 PM
Well I'm gone from there now because some fucking douche bag mod removed my Final Fantasy XII topic without explanation.   He never replied to my PM either. 
Title: Re: RHDN Currently Down
Post by: assassin on October 03, 2017, 06:16:51 PM
as in "Different Final Fantasy XII releases?" ?

that is on archive.org and in the fleeting google cache, if you need to refer to anything in it.